[Shaw heaves a long, heavy sigh.]

Okay.

First of all? Not uncomfortable or embarrassed. But the fact that a guilt trip about not being trusted enough was the first thing you went to when you thought I was? That's an example of the kind of thing we talked about before, where you rely on those conversational cues you picked up from manipulative people.

So. You wanna try again, and then we can have a conversation?