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[cactusy]

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[weartearrust]

We're going by what we're told, you go by what you lived. The experience is going to be different.

Sometimes it is a call that has to be made. Sometimes it isn't. It's been part of my job before, and my life. What's the saying? 'The needs of the many' and all that? But there's always going to be nuance.

Maybe in the end turning you from doctor to Turk was a good thing. Maybe it wasn't, we can't speak to an alternate you that stayed on the medical path to find out.

[cactusy]

phrase it like that, and you're going to speak a flood into being.

[weartearrust]

Damn,let me require an addendum, we need BOTH at the SAME TIME to compare directly or it doesn't count.

And if it happens I want to spar with both of you.

[cactusy]

deal

question for you. kind of related. I wouldn't go back to working for the government even if that were possible. would you go back to Shinra?

[weartearrust]

I don't know. It'd be easy to say 'of course not!' but it would depend on a lot of things. It's my whole life's work, and things supposedly get better for the planet a few years after I die.

[cactusy]

I wouldn't want you saying "of course not" unless you actually meant it. blowing smoke up my ass doesn't do anybody any good.

play out some of those factors that would affect your decision for me?

[weartearrust]

The usuals. I joined to do good and help people, not be a monster or help end the world. I don't think company policy allows nonhumans or deserters so probably pointless to speculate.

[cactusy]

no nonhumans at all? why?

[weartearrust]

There are zero nonhostile sapient species on the planet besides humans.

It's just people, animals, and the things that kill people.

[cactusy]

got it. they're not built to consider the blurry edge cases like you.

I don't think it's pointless to think about this stuff, though. it's basically just another way to think about your wants and motives.

do you know what helped make the planet better?




or

I guess what will help make the planet better

this time travel multiverse crap always makes verb tenses weird

[weartearrust]

Near as I can tell, forcing people to realize "the planet is alive" was not a euphemism, it's literal. Self-will and planning and everything. Made people realize they can't keep screwing around.

[cactusy]

and Shinra was cool with that?

is cool with that

[weartearrust]

No idea! But the impression I've been getting is the planet didn't give them a choice in the matter, cooperate or get erased by titanic planet-created antibodies designed to get rid of the virus that is 'you'.

[cactusy]

who'd you have this conversation with? Fair?

[weartearrust]

All of them, in pieces. It's understandably difficult to sit someone down and ask for the details of the most painful events of their lives.

[cactusy]

does that include Kadaj and Yazoo? you have the patience of a saint.

[weartearrust]

The boys aren't that bad. They're just rowdy.

[cactusy]

every time I see them around they're acting like crosses between teenagers and toddlers

Disclaimer, angeal's understanding of what they are is wrong.

[weartearrust]

It's pretty accurate. They are children, they've just been aged faster, I think, so they can be put to use. I imagine the Admiral doesn't have them here because they're villains so much as.. in desperate need of a chance to be more than copies.

They're doing very well so far!

Re: Disclaimer, angeal's understanding of what they are is wrong.

[cactusy]

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that this is Shinra's fault

am I right?

[weartearrust]

I don't actually know that for certain. They wanted to make Sephiroth copies but never could.

And now here's these two, and there's a third that didn't make it aboard.

I assume it means at some point R&D succeeded but it's an assumption.

[cactusy]

seems like a pretty easy thing to find out, right? we've got all these eyewitnesses onboard.

[weartearrust]

Not really. I imagine it's like how things go in your government. What you see and hear about is just the tip of the iceberg, and you can only guess about the rest. No agency cooperates or talks to another about their secrets.

Nobody here had the kind of clearance to find out stuff at that level from R&D. My boss didn't for most of it either, or the other Directors. Science did its own thing and only ever reported the successes, right to the President. And they didn't go into detail on how they got where they are, just the results.

You need to remember, most of the people here from our planet were not part of the company and absolutely had none of the clearances needed to, say, be there when the boys were designed or when they were born, or even put eyes on their dossiers. Sephiroth MIGHT have, but he doesn't remember. Vincent might have, but he's twenty five years out of date.

Even I only had access to Hollander's line of research, Sephiroth and the boys were Hojo's line.

[cactusy]

we need to get you guys a genius billionaire with an insane amount of resources. it's not a fail-proof solution, but it's working out ok for us.

anyway, if your assumption is wrong, it's a hell of a big coincidence. I'm ok with putting the blame on Shinra here. having the intention to make more baby Sephiroths isn't a good look whether they succeeded or not.

[weartearrust]

We don't need more rich people out of touch with anything more than their own ambitions, but I appreciate the thought!

Call it a philosophical difference; I don't want to assign 'blame', that implies there's something negative to having them alive. Whoever cloned them, whatever their 'purpose' was, whether to try to refine the process they started on Sephiroth or something else, they're good kids.